I knew someone was going to get offended, and rush to defend Ronnie Martin from my selfish, childish voice of unreasonableness, but I didn't think it would be this hilariously over-the-top.
Let's break this down, shall we?
MattB and elisamuelf, you two are way out of line. You sound like whiny petulant children.
No, out of line is insulting Ronnie Martin or making unreasonable demands of him. Expecting him to give his fans an update every now and then--he doesn't even have to do it himself, because for a matter of fact he knows plenty of people who can do it for him--or at least updating everyone on the status of an album that wasn't released at the time the front page still clearly says it is supposed to be released
is neither insulting to the man nor is it unreasonable.
Ronnie has a personal and work life outside of Joy Electric, he always has.
Yes. Among other things, he has driven trucks for a living outside of JE.
Let the man live his life and quit bitching about how he hasn't kept you up to date on his every waking move.
Do I have to pull quotes out of my original post just to make you understand how ridiculous that sounds?
And I'M being bitchy? Thank goodness Ronnie has you to come to rescue any time someone makes ONE POST mentioning his infrequent updates.
Furthermore, Matt, if you had been paying attention to this very board you would have known all about the things you claim Ronnie kept hidden from everyone. It's not Ronnie's fault you didn't pay attention.
So far I've only mused on your inordinately indignant response to my little mini-rant, but this is where I call you out your bullshit, lfh.
I have been a Joy Electric fan since the summer of 2000. I have lurked the official Joy Electric since at least late 2001, long before it was called the "jecommunity".Nothing announced on this board has ever escaped my attention.
It's one thing to attack someone, calling them a petulant, greedy child because you disagree with what they wrote. It's quite another when you do so and your argument has holes the size of Texas in it! The hole:
If I had not been paying attention to this board, I would not have known about Ronnie's tumblr blog in the first place. You say that it's my fault for not paying attention, as if Ronnie announced the tumblr blog here in the first place. But here's the funny part---he didn't! Said Fantasy was not OFFICIALLY announced at joyelectric.com. The tumblr blog was not OFFICIALLY announced at joyelectric.com. The fact that he may have already left T&N has not been OFFICIALLY announced at joyelectric.com. All of these things have been reported here by third parties, never by Ronnie Martin himself.
And FYI, I never said Ronnie owed anyone anything. No merchant owes his customer anything after the products have already been sold. But that doesn't mean that as a citizen of the Land of Free Speech, I can't be vocally unhappy about it! And you wrote such a diatribe against what I wrote, but where's the substance in your words? If we just cut through all the BS, are you really saying that I have no right to be unhappy with Ronnie Martin for the way he's distanced himself from his fanbase for the last year and a half? If so, then I'm not the one being petty, you are. Fact:
Ronnie has distanced himself from his fanbase.Also fact:
I don't like it. I don't like how every new bit of Ronnie Mart music news comes from an unofficial source, sometimes weeks or months after the fact, and I hate that when a new JE album was announced and didn't come out on time, there's no one around to explain why.Facty fact
: Ronnie Martin is either some sort of god to you, or you just happened to really jump the gun with nearly every line of your unnecessarily angry response. I'm leaning towards the latter.
The simple fact is you two are just being greedy and are way out of line. I hoped someone would have called you out sooner, but since they didn't I am.
It was a tough job, but someone had to do it!
I've been listening to Joy Electric since I was a teenager. I'm 27 now, nearly 28. I've been reading these forums for a long time, and I've been on the web longer than Google, and I've seen a lot of things.
So please take my word for it when I tell you that this righteous indignation over non-inflammatory remarks is very unbecoming of you. I'm not a greedy, petulant child; I'm a fan of Ronnie Martin's music, just like you. Our only difference is, while I respect the man as immensely as you do, I don't think that means I should keep my mouth shut up and never, ever, ever say anything negative about anything he does. Because that would be silly.